Remove blacklist command, show a list of blacklisted words.

Hey Ricardo,

The reason of all those words being blacklisted is mainly to keep the chat as filtered as possible. an unfiltered chat just isn't what you want ofcourse especially when a big part of the community is a younger audience. I do think the idea of having an entire list with all the blacklisted words might be a good idea but since the /blacklistcheck command is quite solid I don't think that this is necessary and having a list of those words might take a lot of time updating it once in a while since there are new words getting added to the blacklist aswell.
Remember that filterbypassing just isn't allowed and it shouldn't matter if it is a meme or not. Also the context in wich you put a certain word is most of the times the reason you get muted. I'd recommend just to think twice about anything you want to put in chat.
Taking a look at the rules might be a good idea to prevent getting more mutes in the future.

Hope I clarified some things for you :3 Enjoy the rest of your day Ricardo!

 

Hey, I personally don’t find this necessary. I’d simply say, just watch what you say. I find the command useful. If you have a little bit of common sense and a self filter you should be good, and getting muted for filter bypass can be avoided easily. I don’t see them adding this as I find the current command useful. Just watch what you say in chat, I know it can be hard. :) Although, it can be useful with a full list of the blacklisted words.

 

I agree i think that if you are playing on a mine craft server that is generally populated by children not saying certain words should be of common knowledge. I do not think that they should release a whole list of words that are blacklisted as it should be of your own judgement to acknowledge what is and is not bypass/blacklisted like abbreviations of bodily parts that are blacklisted. It is easy to type in the command to see if it is allowed or not allowed. Given, when you're typing and you know that the literal word is blacklisted, just do not say it as it will ensure a mute. Also ,when you type a word it will also give you a warning if it blacklisted or not.

 

Hey there!
I personally think this is a good suggestion as i have said a word which isn't rude at all it wasn't like sexual stuff or swear words. And i accidently bypassed the filter then got muted. So this will be a +1 from me. Also not many people know what are blacklisted words like new players they sometimes say a word which is blacklisted but they mis-spelt it so the filter doesnt pop up a message saying thats blacklisted.
Anyways,
Have a lovely day/night
-[Immortal]akaGast
Discord-akaGast#0001

 

Hey there! I completely agree with your suggestion. I was wondering if this could be implemented ON TOP of the existing command. It would make it so much easier to figure out which are blacklisted words to chatreport (in-case they are evading the filter). /blacklistedwords - would be a great idea.

Thanks for the suggestion. I hope this gets added! <3

 

Who said you needed to code a bot to check all the inappropriate words? The command "/blacklistcheck" is used to check for filtered words in the case that players are curious to see if a word is blacklisted. If you spell a blacklisted word correctly, then you should clearly see in chat that it'll say; "Your message contained a blacklisted word <word> and was not sent" or something related to that. As this server is 13+ recommended, there will always be a rulebreaker so you should expect players to be swearing.

Just don't act inappropriately or immature in chat and you should be fine. Even if you live outside the US and you're country allows certain conversations, that does not mean it applies to all websites across the internet. @Dionnysus is for sure in the right and so was the Staff Member who denied your appeal. Memes are meant to be funny, not inappropriate. Clearly the memes you're looking into are filled with Dark Humor so always watch what you're posting in chat. Back to the topic, if they were to add a list of blacklisted words, I believe it should be listed under the rules in a spoiler section which can be brought up with the Admin Team.

However, I 100% disagree with the removal of the /blacklistcheck command as it is useful for Staff Members and Community Members. Then again, your suggestion for a list of filtered words should definitely be added for curiosity sake. Either way, I'm neutral on this discussion.

- Fox

 

I disagree if you checked the ages frequency distribution for MCC the majority falls into the older teen category.

 

Hey Ricardo! This has been explained fantastically by Fox and Dion above, so I'll just be elaborating on the important points. Fox is right in that you shouldn't really need a list of blacklisted words, as any blacklisted word spelled correctly should be filtered automatically by the server. The reason /blacklistcheck-ing the word you used came up with nothing is the same reason why any other blacklisted word spelt wrong won't come up; it's designed to get around that filter in the first place.

A lot of the blacklisted words are just common sense. You're unlikely to be using any of them frequently, unless intentionally being inappropriate or disrespectful. That being said, I do see where you're coming from in terms of the filter bypass you used. I think clarity to the community about how that particular word is punished on the rules page would go a long way to helping curb the unintentional bypassing of it, as it is one of the more common things players get muted for. For now just keep in mind that even when you're joking around, using the word in a potentially inappropriate context means that we have to mute.

I'm 50/50 on adding an actual list of blacklisted words. There's a reason why we don't currently display any blacklisted words as examples on the rules page; we don't want to expose MCC's younger player base to these words. It also seems a little overkill, considering that most words are already blocked by the server chat filter and that /blacklistcheck exists. I can understand why it would be useful though, so if it was to be added it should be as a viewable list linked to the filter bypass rules section, with a disclaimer warning people before they're able to access it.

 

I think this is a suggestion with good intents behind it, if you wanted a list of EVERY single word that can get you muted for filter bypass, you would be reading a book. Theres so many different forms of each blacklisted word that it would spam your chat with words. What i think would be even better is if they just updated the filter!!! Its not like you are allowed to say certain words anyways so if it filters your message, woopie! You just dodged a mute. So if you like this suggestion on your suggestion (lol) make another suggestion following this.

 

+1 Would be nice to know what words are blacklisted and what aren't. There's also the issue of when one uses a synonym for certain words. o.o

 

If the blacklisted words are already coded into the filter plugin, I don't think it would take too much effort to add a full list of blacklisted words. I agree with some of the staff but also with you. I think a list would be a good addition on top of the /blacklistcheck command. If staff is worried about younger people reading it, put an age check or something on the rules page or at least a spoiler tab.

 

+1 Honestly people should know already know what not to say and what to say in public chat. Its common sense. This would be a good command to basically slam people with a ban or mute if they say something inappropriate. This also gives staff an opportunity to say why didnt you check /blacklisted words, without having people say "I didnt know you couldnt say *****".

 

I made a thread similar to this a long long time ago, before I was staff. And now, looking back on it, I understand why there isn’t a list. When you try to type a message with a blacklisted word, it won’t let you. That should be the first sign that says you cannot say that word. If you simply just retype the message and bypass the filter, then that’s on you. There was a clear sign that said there was a blacklisted word - and in your message, you cannot identify it, then I’d advise asking a staff member or just try rereading your message. I feel like adding a list is 1) pointless as we already have /blacklistcheck and 2) encourages ways to subtly bypass the already set filter.

Here’s a link to the thread I made a while back (here) and the responses to it are explained carefully and more intricate. Although I had the standpoint of having the addition of a list, with enough experience (and looking through the chat reports staff members received) I can gladly say adding a list wouldn’t be beneficial.

Thanks for reading my views on this topic; if you’d like to discuss more, feel free to pm me. Also, it’s best to just say nice things :D