Hello! Before I get into this, yes, I'm aware there's a whole a section for suggestions. However, I don't think anyone actually reads it, so I'm posting here to gain the community's attention. The topic of hackers on the server has always been an interesting issue to take on; most suggestions are aimed at cutting down the number of hackers on the server. While most of these are effective written out, implementation becomes a challenge, or isn't even considered for many. I believe a solution is quite overdue, but many are a hassle to add or maintain. Therefore, I believe increasing severity three punishment lengths will hopefully cut down on the number of hackers MCC sees. To further break this down, I suggest a two-strike rule; the first offence is a 60-day ban, and the second offence onward is a permanent ban, appealable after six months. Most players who would like to come back and play fair on MCC learn their lesson after a single ban, so why are there three strikes allowed? The current system allows hackers to return not once, but twice after they were initially banned. With staff members now required to record their bans for non-blatant hacking, I think this rule would not really cause any issues in the way of false bans, because it has already been addressed. Overall, I only see benefits for MCC with this new punishment policy implemented.
I honestly feel that the way that it is now is alright. I understand that they can come back two times but I feel that getting three strikes is the right way to do it. Three strikes and your out basically, that's what I think works best.
While I do get where you are coming from, it does make more sense to use a 2-strike system. The first punishment expires so that they have a chance to learn their lesson. If they clearly haven't, then they shouldn't be allowed to play on the server. Simple as that. Giving a third chance is pointless if they clearly don't care about what they did. Also I don't really agree with what you said about how things are. The reason MCC has been falling apart over the last few years is because everyone just says "things are fine the way they are". They're not, there's always room for improvement, and the staff & owners should always be looking for ways to change for the better. While they have made a few positive changes such as staff being required to record, I would also like to see some of the more major problems addressed.
It doesn't really matter whether the punishment is 30 days or 60 as most of the hackers are using alts that would just exp within two weeks. Only real people would have to wait for this 60-day ban and that % is like 30, as 70% of current hackers are people who just come on alts to hack for fun not even bothering of getting a ban hammer on them. After they are banned they can get an alt or just play mcc in next 2 weeks or something with their new alt, I know (Ip-ban is a thing) but honestly, it's not so hard to bypass (without using VPN) The real solution isn't to increase the ban limit or PermBan its to ban off the alt lists (theres around 100 public list by big server of AC (names) that are used to be alts to hack on MC servers) and my suggestion is for MCC to take this list and place it inside their server banning of these alts before they can even hack on MCC. This can already ban of tons and tons of alts (that people just uses to hack on) Learning lesson for these people that uses alt isn't the point as they still would hack till 3rd time or something (as they don't even care), however, this can be applied to donors or people that hacked on MCC one time (they would try not to hack anymore as they don't wanna get full perm ban next time) This is all my opinion! ~Cya!
Hey! This issue has been discussed a lot with in the MCC Community and here’s what I think. People who hack a lot of the time have a tonne of alt accounts so I guess any ban above even 2 weeks is OK for them. HOWEVER the people who just hack for the fun on one account and regret it and want to come back should wait out a month ban. If they STILL have not learned better then they can be perm banned (appealed after 26 weeks) This way people with who don’t have alts get a second chance. In all honesty though, literally what I just said is very similar to the Ban system already that it wouldn’t been needed to change! Have a Day that is Nice All The Best ___Sean___ MCC Community Member
I think it is perfect it gets hackers off the server, and if an actual player decides to cheat for an advantage and they get banned. They will learn there lesson in those 30 days. I feel like with the punishment history of bans increasing it is perfect the way it is.
Spoiler: Assistant Why would three strikes work the best if the hackers only keep coming back to cause more problems? It shouldn't affect anyone playing fairly; just don't hack and you'll be fine. Cracking down on the hackers should be MCC's number one priority, but focus is clearly shifted elsewhere at the moment. Increasing the punishment time shouldn't be too hard, and it has many benefits in the long run. Spoiler: Sean and RegentAgent The thing with alts is there are only so many, and most are used by multiple hackers. If we can ban the alts for longer, hackers won't be able to access them for longer periods of time, and they'll stay off the server. This isn't taking away any chances from people who want to play MCC fairly; it's cracking down on client use and showing how seriously the staff team takes hackers and hacking. Spoiler: xStrafings There are too many people that don't learn their lesson after three, four or even five strikes. We need to stop this behaviour in its tracks, and the easiest way to do that is to increase punishment lengths. Three strikes has been tried time and time again, but it clearly doesn't work, so why is it still in use? Overall, there is no loss for MCC when it comes to this idea. Many players, new and old alike, are being driven away by the abundance of hackers on the server. I can't keep up with reporting every single hacker I see; it's become impossible to efficiently do so. By increasing the punishment lengths, MCC will see an increase in its playerbase, and more legitimate players in said playerbase.
I believe that it won't change the player count. If bans are 60 day for first offence instead of 30 the hackers are gonna be gone for 30 more days than the old ban system if they even decide to come back. The hackers will still be joining MCC and seeing it as a place to hack even after they get banned hackers will still be coming into the server at an expedited rate.
Hackers have tons of MC accounts. However, their amount of alts isn't unlimited, eventually they will run out of accounts. I personally think permanent bans would help in this case. If I were to change the punishment for hacking I would just make it permanent until appealed. Of course, this would change once the anti cheat is improved but as this point, I just think that hacking should be taken very seriously as of right now.
I like this idea a lot, if you care about getting banned then you can appeal to make it the 30 days other than that just make it permanent. Gotta make a lot of alt forum accounts in order to get all ur accounts unbanned xd
Yeah, the amount of cheaters I have reported who have already been banned twice is almost amusing, people don't magically reform after the second one if they didn't after the first, and you of course can always appeal it after waiting the 6m. Agree on 60d to perm over 30 60 perm. Edit: there are a lot more dedicated cheaters on the subs than the minigames so thats an important thing of note, this is addressing regent's post. I do think public alts should probably just be banned off the bat if they are verifiable, but that suggestion is unrelated to the actual issue this post is talking about Edit 2: by dedicated I mean users who do not just alt hop
omg finally somebody that actually used spoilers to hide their quotes now im gonna start doing that now instead
Hey! This is a good idea because there have been SO many hackers on recently, especially in skywars. When i think of a fly hacker (for example) I think of someone who dosnt care about the server because players or the anticheat will detect the blatant hacking. Since they really dont care they might not care enough to write up a whole appeal just to hack for two games then get banned. Have a great day! -jollysinder
I would be locking this post, as its getting randomly bumped, I think the discussion is already over and there's no need to continue this. ~Cya!
