Discussion on IRL Deals

Hey Galaxy! I completely agree with you on this idea, scamming IRL money should not be allowed at all. The problem is that MCC doesn't deal with IRL scams, which makes sense but also sucks for the person who got scammed. There'd be no way to show proof of evidence since it'd be too easy to just fake it. The staff team can't just take someone's word and ban someone for IRL scamming. The best thing to do is to deal with using IRL scams is using a staff middle man!

1 last thing, even if the person was to have enough valid proof and this "IRL Scamming" rule was a thing, the person still lost real-life money. Personally I wouldn't be satisfied with the person only getting banned. MCC can't give you your money back either way.

Hopefully, this makes some sort of sense?

Essentially there's no reason to add a rule about IRL scamming since staff members can offer to middle man!

I'd have to say -1 on this idea since there'd wouldn't be a punishment that would match the money you lost, and proving that someone actually scammed your money would be too hard (and easily faked). I completely see why you'd want this to be added though.

I hope you have a wonderful day sir!

 

I think this would be more of a problem if staff members did not middle man. But since they do, I’m ok with it staying as it is. Thank god for middle mans

 

I think it shouldn’t be allowed on some game modes. Factions if shoulda be allowed there’s no reason why it shouldn't be.

Have a wonderful week

~Jones

 

Hey, I kinda agree that it shouldn’t be allowed because at that point you are no longer messing with a game. Someone mentioned that it would be difficult to prove that you were scammed irl money, however, it’s really not. Basically when you purchase something on mcc you get a receipt. Along with this usernames appear on the sidebar of recent purchases. One could also record the whole deal process. I think this should only be acceptable for punishment if a user lost irl money because losing in game money isn’t so much of a loss rather than a waste of time. I hope this makes sense :)

~Micro​

 

100% agree with you I hope the prison/factions staff wel see it!

have a nice day

 

Hey! FarisNya!

IRL scamming is definitely a horrible thing happening but I believe it should be up to the player who wants the virtual goods to handle it responsibly. This is real money that coincidentally results in MCC goods. Like some have said, MCC isn't going to reimburse you for getting scammed. It should be your responsibility and it's your money you chose to use. If you are scared, here are some clues:

1. Call a middleman.
At this point it should be a norm to call a middleman. Staffs are excellent middleman people.

2. What if they are persistent on not having a middleman?
Cut them off. Insist on having a middleman or you won't do business. Wait for staff to get on. If staff aren't on, add the person with /friend and when a staff is on, msg them and do it there. This probably won't happen often because the staff here are pretty active and I've gotten hold of them even at midnight.

That's all I got for now! Nya!

 

Yeah I agree with you guys, IRL deals can be a bit risky. But like Kyo said, it is best to ask a staff to be a middleman, that way they can give you back the things you are trading for and you don't have to pay the money. The staff are usually happy to help you in the deal, or at least for me they have been. Usually, when I want to do an IRL deal, I just go to the discord and ask.

 

Galaxy I personally think on factions it should be allowed because it’s kind of part of factions (although it’s not the nicest thing to do) it is part of factions. If you don’t like this rule I would recommend getting a staff or another player that both sides trust to be a middleman for the deal. I can agree that the rule should maybe be added to prisons but at the same time I don’t think it’s one of those problems that they need to fix right here right now.

Personally I rarely do irl deals for this reason but I have done them before and gotten scammed and also gotten my money’s worth. Hope this effects your decision <3

 

The problem is that you either have to cut off IRL dealing completely which nobody wants (most don't*) or effectively keep it how it is, nobody likes to be scammed but that is just how some people / the internet is sometimes and with all trading that is a risk you sometimes have to take, luckily staff are there to be the bridge of legitimacy and if someone is ok with trading outside of this avenue then that is their risk. I absolutely get where you're coming from but Kyo and Faris really put it perfectly in their posts, without outlawing IRL deals entirely there would be no way to actually crack down on this and it would also likely result in a lot of people fishing for punishments through this avenue due to how the evidence for it would likely have to be collected.

 

There should be a rule when leading up to a irl deal record leading up to it and the person saying or promising they will do the deal legit and if they scam they should get perma banned just my opinion though

 

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