Some suggestions to make prison more rewarding

I agree for the most part as I grind prison pretty hard, but i believe that is saw in another thread that they don’t do it to prevent the game to be too p2w because new player would leave

 

Hey MCCMarksmn,

1)
The whole point of all blocks giving the same points for your pickaxe is to make it so people don't focus on just one block.
Otherwise people would go to the mine that has the most of that block and camp there, rather than mining at any area.
So its a -1 for me on that - though, the only place I would say that COULD give extra points, is the wilderness mine; so that's a thought.

2)
Mine prices are fine. Increasing the block prices would make the big number go up for the sake of making the big number go up.
Making the later blocks go up higher would make things super whack for higher level players - because, don't forget, you get a prestige multiplier on sell prices.

3)
DMine is plenty rewarding, the idea of DMine is a 'fast boost' early in the season, rather than a constant 'best mine' through the season.
You have a donor pickaxe to instamine all blocks in DMine, you can go to DMine with your donor pick and make faster money than you would if you started at Mine A.
Thus, DMine has its place, and does not need a buff.
Need I remind you, many players are against P2W - the DMine is nicely balanced at the moment, where it helps donors early game, but is not needed late game. (Though its good for getting Gold blocks for Gapples, mind you)

4)
Daily bonus? You already get your donor kit daily; that IS your daily bonus. Donors have enough perks.

5)
The mine resetting could definitely be tweaked and adjusted to reset at a lower percent, just, when its set to the lower percentage you have issues where players mine all the good blocks and leave the less profitable blocks, so resetting at 50% ensures that the mine is frequently fresh of nice blocks to mine. Do you have any evidence that resetting at 60-70% would be better? Throughout the resets, the 50% refresh has been favoured over the old timer system. I've watched 20 people gobble up DMine after a reset and with the 50% refresh, its always topped up and ready to be mined.

 

I have mixed opinions about your thread, while some of those ideas sound great and would indeed help players a lot, some also sound helpless and I don't see a point on them being added
1- The amount of extra levels you'd get from each different ore (using cobble and coal as an example) would be really small, almost insignificant. Of course, in a long-term grind it might make a massive difference but I don't see how that would help in the first few days of grinding since your pickaxe will be relatively "bad" in comparison to a few ranked pickaxes and/or donator rank pickaxes.
2- This has also something to do with how fast you can mine and the fortune level on your pickaxe. Let's say you max out efficiency on your upgradable pickaxe (for a total of 8 points) and fortune (for a total of 30 points). That comes down to 38 points in total, just so the pickaxe will be slightly better than an immortal ranked one, which can be bought for cheap off of /ah (roughly 50k by the start of the season) or obtained for free once a day if you own an account with that rank. I can assure you that mining 850k blocks w/o these updates can get tiring and boring, so using an upgradable pickaxe with minimal upgrades is pointless in that scenario. Once again, the money you make has something to do with the amount of time you spend mining (efficiency level on your pickaxe) and how many resources you're obtaining from such time (fortune level on your pickaxe). Of course, for rookies getting started with an upgradable pickaxe might be already a great advancement, but for people with ranks, and that includes the vast majority of the server, this is pointless. Not to mention prestige boosters, which add 0.1% more made off of selling to warp signs.
3- DMine is more rewarding than all warps below S. Thus, this point is linked to the one above - using an upgradable pickaxe to grind out DMine would be much better than wasting a ranked one with fortune, as blocks aren't affected by it. Furthermore, the current price for 9 diamonds (worth 1 diamond block) in warp S is $33.30, and 1 diamond block in DMine is $35.20. The difference is almost insignificant, and grinding in warp S is faster, hence you'd make money faster even though you'd make less money for each singular ore.
4- what lol. donators already get enough "bonuses"
5- Yes. That's one of the things that bothered me the most when mining in a larger group of people. I'd love to have it reset at 75%-80%, that way, more and more people could grind. +1

 

Yes but it makes players who can’t afford ranks get destroyed and leave. That's my opinion I’ve been a rookie for a while and the server being more p2w I would have quit.

 

First, the P4 that you can get every 24hrs cant be easily obtained in big quantities for rookies, and there you are with chests of p4 as an immortal, secondly, i dont see why you say being punished like everyone else, as nobody is being punished, because every one has the same "punishment", so it makes it part of the game, and not a punishment. Getting you less of a "punishment" would only make it more p2w as rookies dont have a chance at keeping up. What you want is a fully p2w system in your favor, since you would be extremely rich using a method some people can’t afford doing. The game is already p2w since immortals can easily redeem their immortal kits, and all the ones below. Legend kit is good too so it gives you 2 op kits every 24 hours and rookies can hardly obtain 1 in a week by grinding. This scares non-p2w players away from pvp, and personally it’s one of my favorites part of prison. Therefore rookies will get bored faster of prison, or will buy a rank and come on the forums to complain about the fact that their new rank isn’t as much of an advantage that they thought, and want to make it more p2w to finally be the one bulling rookies instead of the bullied one. Please stop p2winng the game. It already is and theres a balance of p2w and fairness to rookies. Thank you for your understanding, and play with the already big advantage you have as a donator.

 

I have seen some rookies get really far, it isn't impossible to get far in some time, yes they have a big advantage and can get it easily but you can still make progression how donators can in a short amount of time. every server ofc is hard to get the same progression as donators but it is still pretty easy to progress.

 

I understand but man it’s already hard you just said it’s not impossible but it’s hard, why would you make it harder if you already said you can progress but way faster. It think it would break the game

 

well, theres not point to make it any harder then it is, its fine now its not like it's gonna get harder then it already is.

 

1. The incentive to rank-up is better money?? If you knew what the fuck you where doing you would have known this. The blocks in the mines already have plenty of reason to be considered more valuable.

2. The increase in value of the ores in the mine should be a gradual effect, making diamond and other rarer ores worth more would just increase the cost of everything else. They'd have to change the amount it cost to level up to account for the increased value.

3. The dmine is still extremely valuable to the player base as the game progresses, It's the easiest source of Iron/gold available as you don't need to smelt the items. I'd also like to kindly point out that the Dmine cost a whole of $5 and is only meant to be considered a reward from coal rank. It's not meant to be some absurd reward and is plenty useful how it is now.

4. Each rank comes with a kit that can be claimed every 24 hours, As an immortal player i can get 9 gaps, 2 p3 set, 1 p4 set & make a sharp IV just from my kits alone. This is a daily kit so keep in mind that its plenty rewarding. Lets also not forget how many additional perks we get from our ranks.

5. It's just a mine??? Who cares if someone is ahead???

Thanks for reading <3

 

adding a slight "increase" like that would make it way easier for the economy to get more rich and get higher ranks. rather then 10 dollars maybe raise it to 5? trust me, its pretty easy to get ranks kits to make it easier ya know. thank you for your time :)

 

i agree

 

i think that everything needs tweaking its just not in a good place