Unlisted Ban Rules

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  1. Nate14k

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    I was recently banned for "griefing" in Skyblock even though I never stole anything, I was still on the island and still in my possession. I was told by staff (Recrement) that it is a sub-server rule that since the island owner wanted it back I had to give it or else it was griefing. I wasn't leaving the island or ever going to steal it, just took it in my possession to get their attention to talk about an issue we were having.

    I was told it is a sub-server rule but the rule isn't posted ANYWHERE for me to see and know I was breaking a rule. When it was all happening and he got staff involved, I looked online and it only said stealing. I didn't steal them, as I was still on the island.

    So first I think any sub-server rule should be posted or else it is unfair to ban/mute someone for a rule that they had no way of knowing they are breaking a rule. Second I know every situation is different but in my case I didn't steal anything and wasn't going to leave at all. Think some point there has to be common sense to step in and say it just happened and I didn't leave the island so how could it be grieifing. If I left the island or was holding this for over a couple hours it could be different.
     
  2. Nate14k

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    I was also just not notified by Recrement that this is a "known rule" that if you play skyblock you will know the rule. Still he couldn't provide evidence anywhere on where this rule is posted. Once again I don't grief or scam so I don't know those rules. So when this happened they were calling me a scammer and griefer but I looked at the rules and I didn't steal it so no way it was griefing. Once again I think this needs changed or these rules need posted so all users can view to have no excuse why they get ban.

    I'm not trying to fight it, just think if its a punishable ban that it should be acceptable for all players to view.

    Thank you,
    Nate
     
  3. FarisNyanNyan

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    Heynya!

    It's unfortunate you got banned, but you definitely should rethink your method of getting the attention of your island members. I'm sure you weren't going to actually steal the items, but staff can't trust you on that word, and for all they know you could've been actually stealing the items. The rule on griefing is:
    "Griefing
    Purposely destroying the builds of other users or stealing items without permission."
    You did indeed steal the items without their permission. There is no technicalities in here that say "steal the items and then leave the island". It is just steal the items without permission. If the owner wants it back, I'd suggest giving it back.

    Byebyenya!
     
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    Hello!

    If you think that you were unfairly banned you may appeal your punishment here.

    If you think that a staff member was being abusive then you may report them here.
     
  5. Nate14k

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    But definition of stealing is "take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it." AyeItsBeck was in a party chat with us for a good 30-45 mins and saw everything I said. She saw me say over 100 times I'm not going to steal it, we just need to solve some things! So AyeItsBeck is the one that knows most about this and she told Uploads that I didn't have the intent to steal it or I didn't leave the island yet so it wasn't bannable. So Uploads got Recrement and he listened to what he said and didn't know the situation fully and ban me. Just doesn't make sense the staff that knows most says no its not bannable, the staff that knows only 1 side bans me! lol
     
  6. ThorKingOfAsgard

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    Hey, Nate14k I am sorry but I going to agree with FarisNyanNyan. The reason for this is because you need to rethink your method of getting others' attention from your island members. Another reason why I agree with FarisNyanNyan is because you are not supposed to steal other players' stuff that counts as griefing. Griefing is only allowed on the prison sub server and the factions sub server. You broke the griefing rule so that is why you are banned. Also, staff can not hold you on that word because of your griefing. It is not right to steal other player's stuff without the owner of the stuff permission. Agree with FarisNyanNyan because If the owner wants their stuff back I suggest give back to the owner. I hope you never grief again. If you have any concerns please reply to me I am happy to reply to your concern. Have a good day or night!
     
  7. FarisNyanNyan

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    Heynya!

    I don't think this about the actual definition of stealing. It's more about the server's rule of griefing. You were banned for griefing, right? So we should go by the definition of what the server calls griefing. Again, the rule does say, "stealing without permission". You didn't have permission. If other staff talked to Recrement (which I think the information that they were there is pretty important), they sure could've convinced him, because as you said, AyeItsBeck knows the most about this kind of stuff. I know I said all this stuff before, but you saying that you didn't have the intent of stealing doesn't prove anything. Actions speak louder than words and they can't just trust you because of what you said that coincidentally could protect you from getting banned.

    Farewellnya!
     
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  8. xBenz

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    At the rules page that is available both on here and /rules in-game :)
    Regardless, you took an item that you were not supposed to and refused to return it. That counts as stealing / griefing

    - Locked
     
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