time for change

Discussion in 'Server Suggestions' started by zak_warrior, Nov 26, 2019.

  1. zak_warrior

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    Ok so in prison i am currently faced with adverts every 2 or 3 mins from another player .we all hate them as they are on a constant loop , i can /ignore and they go away.... but

    The adverts are to go to his plot which has hosted various scams but in said advert he will drop my name once or twice to make it look like i am affiliated with his scams.

    Currently hes not breaking any rules scammings allowed in prison and each to their own

    But to drag another player down with you by dropping there player name and pretending to be them is not good

    My name although i am recovering the last 2 weeks has been mud, PMs asking me why i am scamming when im z9 and on baltop 1 6-10 times every time im active..

    Could a rule be added so the poor mods i have been hassling for help can step in and do something about it

    crazy that he can advertise a scam every 2 mins with my name but if i call him out as a scam each time im the one to get muted ... literally got to sit here and put up with it !
     

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  2. puposaurus

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    hello! i can definitely see what you mean as similar stuff has happened to my friends once before.. however, i really don’t see this becoming a rule since people have alts w/ similar names.. and um.. ecouples >.<

    ik there is a similar rule for the mcc community discord... but yeh.. as far as ign goes.. i don’t think it’d be the best to implement it. i do agree that what you had to deal w/ is and can be very problematic for you or whoever... it’s just that i feel like it’d be hard for staff to manage/for you to find proof.. if, say, you were to be offline for a while and not witness it and other players think that that “fake-you” is you.. if that makes sense..

    hope this mentioned your points and makes sense.. please feel feee to ask questions if i left soemthing our or whatever

    have a great day!
     
  3. iluvu

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    If you're talking about the IGN being similar that is almost definitely not what zak is talking about, this is about impersonating another player to ruin their name / profit off of it and honestly this situation is awful given what he does. There is already a rule about staff impersonation which I imagine is to prevent damaging the name of the server, which is why I feel that malicious (note: malicious) impersonation of other players such as this should be disallowed as well, does he just sit idly as his name is destroyed & attempts to pick up the pieces, especially w/ a lot of new players not aware of his actual reputation? I don't see how you can justify this. +1 to a "No malicious impersonation of other players" rule.
     
  4. puposaurus

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    excuse me. what the f*word.. i mean uwu. ly b.
    ok. so. to clarify. similar igns can lead to other players believing it’s a certain player.. if that makes sense... as well as others can believe it’s an alt... if that makes more sense
    and i feel that they can have a staff rule b/c staff names are more common. some other players might not be as more noticeable by staff if a staff is just in a subserver for their minutes... and a witness could be hard if that player can’t witness it happen and if a friend of theirs sees it if it isn’t then.. if that makes sense....
    as well as, it’s not that common.... but ik there’s rules in there that aren’t that common. so that’s a bad reason. i apologIze.

    ok. hope fhat clearers aome things and made sense.
     
  5. iluvu

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    The problem here is not at all with IGNs though, the case here is that the user is very clearly imitating zak_warrior in attempt to either ruin his name, bolster his scams success, or both. If you are unaware of the situation he is talking about, go to p1 and after a short period of time (unless the account is off) ZakStarwarsFan06 will start advertising scam prevention, casino, or profit plots (which are all scams) and claim they are ran by @zak_warrior which isn't true. It is pretty easy to verify this information as zak runs a very legitimate and effective profit shop which you can see at /p h melon (again p1) and is z9 / baltop as well, so there is basically 0 motivation for him to do this. Also, it would not make sense for a user to attempt to get themselves punished by claiming one of their accounts isn't them, and under my rule's suggestion only *malicious* impersonation such as in this case can be punished. If someone is just called zak_warriors that would of course not be punishable (sorry if this is not what you're saying but I am having difficulty understanding your message). Also as for reporting these events it is really quite simple, it would work as standard chatreport evidence / pic evidence does, and criteria for acceptance would be if it is a consistent event & in controversial cases a confirmation with the person being imitated (or something like that). As for the infrequency, I can't say I have even once seen a staff be impersonated (I'm not saying it doesn't happen but), while I have seen two malicious player imitations in attempt to damage a) a highly reputable and hard working prison player, b) an f top faction within the past week. I fail to see how malicious imitation should not be punishable.
     
  6. guih

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    I cannot agree with you, zak. There are many igns that are similar to others’ igns. I’m sure that there are many other people called zak playing prison in mcc. And why should they be disallowed to have a nickname that somehow is similar to yours? Just because you’re an immortal donor and you’re on baltop and whatever, it doesn’t mean others can’t have nicknames similar to yours. If my point isn’t clear I can explain it better. But to sum up I’m a -1 because the fact that you are an active prison player + immortal donor shouldn’t revoke other’s ability to choose their nicknames.
     
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  7. iluvu

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    It's not a similarity of names though, if you look at the image or go to p1 you will notice that the user specifically says "by zak_warrior" or something similar, the issue is not that he has the name ZakStarwarsFan06, it's that he is claiming all of his scam plots are owned by zak_warrior, the name of the account is not relevant to what he is complaining about here. I of course agree that a similar name is not punishable but that is not at all what is going on here.
     
  8. guih

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    Still, it’s their way to make money. It’s unfortunate that they impersonate. I’m still a -1 although it’s annoying (don’t hate me for that). Scamming of any sort is allowed and just because someone is claiming to be someone else it’s not gonna ruin everyone
    Zak, if I were you I’d try to prove that you’re not the one behind the bot account so that they won’t just blame it on you. Most of the scammers don’t even mine or whatever so they can’t get to Z9, and that’s one of the points that show that you aren’t a scammer.
     
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  9. iiSean

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    Alrighty’o I saw this post except didn’t had enough time to reply so am replying today.

    So before I start looking at the replies there have been many people that have misunderstood others so I am just going to say what I think is happening

    If the correct information is incorrect please correct me:

    So zak_warrior is a player on Prison 1 with the profit shop /p h melon. He is on Baltop and is [Z9] Then someone else is advertising a plot that says is owned by zak_warrior and is a scam yet Zak has said himself he did not make that and is worried about the community hating him on scams. He has been accused of scamming when someone else is just saying he did in an indirect way.

    If that information is correct here is what I think:

    @zak_warrior you should ask the community if they really think it is you and clear your name. Is the community more annoyed at you who is innocent rather then the scam advertisement man or know he is just being rude. Like said above why would a Z9 Baltop 1 Immortal rank be scamming?

    I believe you are telling the truth so why shouldn’t the community :) Hope this wears of next season!

    Have a Nice Day
    All The Best
    ___Sean___
    MCC Community Member
     
  10. zak_warrior

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    Hi no 90% of the community know its not me but the new players and some older less wise still fall foul , just today i cam on to a barrage of swearing as i had "scammed someone".

    Its not his name i am sore about or his scams but to drop my name twice in an advert as you can see from the screenshot i posted and pretend i am affiliated with his plot with signs that read "welcome to xxxxx by zak_warrior" , brings me name and honour into question.

    Anyway today hes dropped my name from his tiresome adverts so maybe i can get back to worrying about the more important things in life..

    Btw if it was someone else , i would still fell as passionately about it (its not all about me)

    thanks for your replys and input guys and sorry mods for my barrage of moaning
     

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