I believe that the mods/admins that have punished you should not be able to deny your appeal requests. This can prevent mods from being biased and also give more perspective from other mods/admins.
I have to highly disagree with this. This can be abused so easily in so many ways. One of the biggest ways is getting banned for hacking. You could just simply appeal your ban and then you are back onto the server. You are punished because you did something wrong and you have to learn from that, not just get away with it. -1 from me. ~ AwfullySus
heyhey! i don’t really agree with this because some people who try to appeal have been rightfully punished although they might be trying to convince staff members that it were false. staff members deny the appeal when they have evidence of the player breaking the rules. in most cases, mods aren’t really biased and will lift your punishment if you appeal in a respectful manner or if you have proof that you have been unfairly punished. -1
I personally think that the appeals are fine as they are. A lot of the time you can get your punishment lifted or reduced if you appeal in an appropriate manner. As for not being able to deny them, this should not be the case. Mods aren’t biased most of the time and you should still be punished for breaking the rules. If you could just appeal your mute and get unmuted because of your rule, there isn’t really a point to have mutes in the first place.
If you think that a staff member is being biased you can always report them, with enough evidence of course. I think the appeal system is fine how it is, and sometimes your appeal gets denied because you simply don't have enough evidence to back up your claim. This is just my opinion of course but I completely respect your view on the appeal system. I used to have similar views on this topic back then, but it's just a matter of having strong evidence or owning up to your actions and being mature about it. Once again if the staff is being unfair or bias and abusing in any way, here's the link to report them. Thank you and have a great day!
I always personally felt it is better for the staff member who punished you to deal with your appeal main reason being is because no one is going to understand a punishment more than the actual person who punished the user. There also is a potential bias but I don't see why a staff member would go out of there way to deny an appeal because they "didn't like a person" I deal with appeals on a case to case basis and take past punishment history and their actual appeal writing into account when deciding to unpunish the user or not. -1
There's no way this is happening, in case you didn't already know. To break it down, look at MCC as a society; server rules can be considered the law and courts system, and the staff members are the police and judges within the court system. Admins are the supreme court, with the ability to overturn rules and punishments they see unfit. Now, if you could take your case, no matter how ludicrous, to a judge and demand your appeal be accepted, what would happen to this society? It would lose itself in a storm of anarchy and injustice which would soon follow. Senior Moderators and Admins already have the responsibility of taking on appeals of departed staff members, and if requested, those on LOA, so demanding they review all appeals is already a very audacious request. Requiring them to accept all appeals, though, is the straw that breaks the camel's back. Punishments are almost never issued without reason, and they adhere to strict lengths and types set out by the Admins. With your suggestion implemented, the rules should essentially be scrapped, because any rule-breaker can appeal and come right back onto the server, no questions asked. If you think a staff member is abusing their permissions, they can be punished for it. Here is the staff report page, but Kyo has already linked to it. Staff members have been (and are still being) observed and tested throughout their terms to ensure they are punishing and behaving appropriately, in accordance with the rules. One bad apple doesn't spoil the entire batch, so there really is no point in making a whole rule to circumvent a single staff member. If you feel a punishment was unjust and your appeal was denied (and you have actual evidence), you can bring it up to an Admin, as I mentioned above. Overall, I could never see this rule being implemented, seeing as it nulls literally every other rule on MCC. -1
No, but I feel that we should have some kind of way to forward an appeal to a mentor or admin if you truly believe that you shouldn't have been punished, and your appeal has been denied wrongfully.
Hello! This would not be necessary. 99% of the time the admin would just say "Nope, the mod is correct, this is bannable. Please wait out this punishment." So this would just create more stress on the admins when they have a billion requests which they will just have no reason to respond too. Huge -1 from me! Have a Nice Day :D All The Best ___Sean___ MCC Community Member
This is so bad then - because i just got false banned and if i'm not able to be unbanned then it's a gg
If you made an appeal giving evidence you wern't hacking, thats the only way to unbanned. Its not bias if you can't give evidence.
Bro i got banned for aimbot and they aren't allowed to show the video because of privacy issues. i was off when all this happend. How would i get evidence?
Always record your gameplay in minigames. Screen sharing does not happen in minigames if this is where you got banned. In general just record. https://mccentral.org/bans/?username=iRebelZoid this is your punishment history. R means reported so another player reported you and it was nto witnessed, meaning there was no chance for screen-share and by he video submitted, you were banned.
Yeah if another player got me banned then atleast show me the recording or lemme know the player's name but nope. The video is FAKE! i'm not hacking. This is not acceptable
Yeah, there is no way this could work at all. As already stated, this would just make a ban pointless because people would just be able to get back on the server just for making an appeal. The server needs to make it so the staff member that banned that player makes the decision to be accepted or not. The reason for this is because they are the ones that banned the person, so they are the ones that were dealing with that current situation or did a report. Of course, they may need evidence for some, but that is also something that is important.
Hi there! If someone can just appeal and always get unpunished, then what is the purpose of having rules? Almost every server has an appeal system because it's great. It's the most efficient and professional way to handle punishments and a great system overall. People won't false ban just like that and especially with the new rules of us having to record some hacks and Helpers always providing evidence of mutes. Have a great day!
A better suggestion would be to have a disputes team that handles all appeals. Honestly the fact that the staff member that banned you gets to decide if your punishment was fair is pretty messed up. If it was handled by someone else, then there would be a lot less bias influencing their decision. And let's be honest, staff here have a very hard time admitting when they're wrong.
