So I'd like to make a suggestion for the message you recieve when you get a warning point on the forums. So first off, let me show you what the system is currently like: Spoiler: Warning So as you can see, the message you recieve provides a link to the post that you were punished for. Only problem is that this link is absolutely useless because regular members cannot view deleted posts, and posts that break the rules are usually deleted. So, my suggestion is that, instead of giving just a link to the post that was deleted, it should give you a link to the Original Post (not your reply to the thread), as well as the title of the thread, and a quote of what you said to get punished. So the message for getting warned would be more something like: Thread Link: Gives the player a reference point when appealing, also let's them view the thread they replied to, in the case they weren't the Original Poster and the thread wasn't deleted. Thread Title: Can help the player to remember what the thread was about, as people who post a lot may forget some threads. Your Post Content: Lets you see exactly what you posted that got you punished. Also gives you a reference to what you posted that you can actually see, in the case your post was deleted or you were the Original Poster (link above would not work) I believe this would clear up a lot of confusion in regards to forum warnings, as so far every single time I've recieved a warning I've had no idea what it was for, and I had to personally contact someone on the staff team to send me a quote/screenshot of what I said. The reason for being warned should be obvious from the start, there's no valid reason that the punished player should need to go out of their way just to know what they were warned for. Anyways that's my suggestion. Thanks for reading.
Heyo mr. Ankh! Your suggestion seems to be nice and I don’t see any negative points in it. If I read everything correctly and I were to summarize the suggestion it would be something like “staff shouldn’t hide posts anymore”, right? Anyways, I’ll say it once again: the suggestion is really nice itself and blah blah blah... good luck with it, have a nice day
hi ankh as i havn't gotten any warning points on the new forums, from when i got a warning point back on enjin, i think it had something where you could still see the post, just others couldn't.. idk.. anwyays i like your idea and don't see a whole lotta damage/harm it can do for the server.. however, i think most times users would normally know what they had said in a post, or if it's thread bumping then they can still see the thread, they just might not know what thread bumping is. Also, if it's a useless thread they had created, I think removing it at least so normal users can''t see it should stay.. and maybe if they get a warning point, either find a way for them to view it or screenshot it.. idk anyways +1
No, you missed the entire point. Posts that break the rules would still be hidden, obviously. But now the people who are punished for the hidden posts will be able to see what they're punished for. There's not much that's more insulting after being punished than not being able to see what you were punished for. That's like saying "oh you did something bad so I punished you for it. By the way, here's a link to what you did to break the rules, but you're not allowed to see it."
Then I think that if the staff members only quoted what broke a rule into the “detailed reason” thing it’d be gucci
Yeah, I doubt any staff member would be dedicated enough to do that though. Would be better to have your post automatically quoted in the message.
Hey! I like the sound of this idea, they should say exactly what thread it is and perhaps have image or something of you post I don’t know. +1 Have a Nice Day All The Best ___Sean___ MCC Community Member
+1 Wouldn't really have much of an issue with this implementation. If this were to be implemented - I believe it'd be totally fine with the staff team, as it also helps community members who are confused. I'll forward this to the Admin Team and see what they think about this. Appreciate the Idea.
I don't think that we should show the forum post in that message, as it could be very long, especially if it's a thread which we warn for. I agree with changing the link of the post into a link of the thread. This of course doesn't work if the original post of the thread is the message you have been warned for. These cases are however quite rare. Staff members are supposed to enter a description of the issue after "Detailed Reason". For example with thread bumping I usually type "Posting to a thread which hadn't been replied to in over 14 days." Similarly for disrespect cases I usually provide an explanation. It seems that some staff haven't used this field (based on the screenshot you gave). I think that we could instead focus on this, as providing the message itself doesn't always explain the warning point to the player. (For example with Thread Bumping where the actual message doesn't even really matter). Staff should always fill that field in. I'll bring this up in the Admin call. :)
If that's the issue, then the post could just be inside of a spoiler that they need to click on to view. As long as there's a way for people to see what they were warned for. Though if someone would put in the time and effort to make a large thread, I would think that they would at least try to follow the rules so it doesn't get deleted. That's why I also suggested it give you the Thread Title as well, so if you were the OP and the entire thread was hidden you would essentially have a copy of the OP saved in your messages. It's true that the link wouldn't work if you were the OP, but at least it's better than it is now where it doesn't work under any circumstances. That's odd, I don't think I've ever actually seen someone use that field, and I've been warned quite a few times now. Honestly didn't even realize it was there until I was reading over the message when taking that screenshot. If the post content isn't going to be included then I would at least suggest making the detailed description mandatory for punishments. Since it's not like in-game where a punishment is issued every few minutes, on the forums I'd say there's only a few times a day (or less) where people are warned. They should be putting time and detail into their warnings. As for what you said about thread bumping, Xenforo does allow for "per-warning messages", as the server already uses. So the post content/title could more than likely be excluded from the posts where it doesn't matter, or doesn't even exist.