I've been noticing that with the hacker issue slowly being resolved, a lot of older players are coming back to the server. However, quite a few of said players tend to have explicit OptiFine capes (here's an example), but it's not considered punishable. I have asked why, and the official reason I was given was "not everyone can see them". I find it quite odd, though; a huge chunk of the server community uses OptiFine, and thus can see offensive/explicit cape designs like the example shown above. Overall, I think inappropriate capes should be punished for under the same rule as an inappropriate name or skin. Just because some people cannot see it, doesn't mean that they shouldn't be punished for it. Another reason I heard from within the community was "we're more mature, there's no need to punish for an explicit cape". Well, why does the server (and literally every other server) punish for explicit names/skins? Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there, and the fact that it's not punishable is quite odd, in my mind. The main reason the rules against explicit/offensive skins and names are in place is to respect the wishes of players who do not wish to see such content. There's no rule that says younger players cannot use OptiFine, and as a result, see explicit capes. I think that allowing certain explicit cosmetics, but not others, really undermines the point of prevention, and seems almost redundant. In summary, I would like to see inappropriate capes punishable with a permanent ban until changed. Almost all of the community can see said capes, as OptiFine is usually bundled with Forge, LabyMod and many other clients. Even if certain players cannot see these capes, it does not mean that the capes should be allowed; Player A should not be subject to something they don't wish to see, because Player B can't see it. I think it is important we send the message that any explicit content is not allowed on MCC, and this is an important step in doing so. Thank you! :) EDIT: I found a great skin/cape checker that seems to work with LabyMod capes, as well. You can find it here.
I fully agree with this, I know some servers that actually have a rule against inappropriate capes and I think MCC should follow along and add this rule as well. I know for a fact that there are a lot of young players on this server and Minecraft in general, if this rule was ever enforced I would say that it's worthy of a Severity 2 punishment as it isn't something that ALL players can see.
Heyo! I would also like this to be a Sev. 2 ban. I know not everyone can see it, but there are still people that can. And it will become more common as players will begin to realize that it isn't punishable offence and will take advantage. So I'd like to see this implemented. Hope you have a great day or night! +1
Yes I agree people will start taking advantage of this because there is no ban, even if you just implement a 2 day ban at first and if they do it again a permanent ban because some people might not read forums.
-1 since people would move inappropriate capes to users in order to get them banned (this is just a situation that came up in my mind, I’m not saying it’s actually going to happen if the rule is added)
I think another important point is that it's hard to regulate the ownership of the cape. From what I've heard, these caps can be easily shared, sometimes without a player knowing. This makes things difficult to differentiate when players try to appeal claiming they had no recollection of an inappropriate cape on them and being the owner of the cape.
I believe it's been changed now, and Optifine requires that you login with both accounts to perform a cape exchange.
The only problem with making the ban a severity 2 is that such a ban will expire, and there is no need for the user to change their cape before appealing. That is why I believe the proper punishment is a permanent ban until it is changed.
Hello! I see both sides to this. I wouldn't really mind if this is punishable or if it remains not punishable because it's simply a cape and doesn't come across as the biggest deal to me. I understand you compared them to inappropriate usernames but usernames come across to me as more powerful because they're explicit words/phrases vs. explicit symbols. I also see your point on that we should ban because my friend and I were on a different server and my friend got banned for having an inappropriate cape which I found interesting and kind of cool. I do hope that your idea is considered since it does seem like a smart decision for these capes but at the same time I wouldn't worry about this rule too much. Thank you for posting and have a lovely rest of your day. ♡
I agree with this mainly because there’s no purpose in having a rule against inappropriate content if some is allowed. Inappropriate names and skins are made to prevent people from seeing them. Majority of Minecraft player base is below the age of 18 so I can’t see a valid reason as to why the capes should be allowed. It’s basically promotes optifine and for people to use inappropriate capes since there’s no punishment. Just doesnt make sense +1
I personally think this should be punishable. I do not like the idea of seeing inappropriate things in my gameplay. I find this as being immature and it is atrocious. Most players would think it's funny and it's just a joke. But it can convince/tell other users that it's a good idea when it's not. I figure that this should be in the same boat as explicit name/skin. It should fall into that category and it should be reprimanded. If you punish skins for being inappropriate, then you obviously should make capes punishable as well. Capes is apart of something that is on the player, just like a skin. I think it is not necessary to single out the certain type of players that do this (old players that are coming back) because it could be anyone. Judging the old community and the players is not necessary and not apart of the main points of this forum post. Saying that it is a certain type of player shouldn't be a point in this post. In conclusion, capes should be punishable as I know many players find this disturbing/inappropriate and would not like to see it while they play, Thank you. -Sativa +1
I am not really sure about the inapp optifine capes as they are pretty common and "trendy", also not sure if people would change their whole layout for one server. However the LABYMOD capes can be talked about. People can put any picture they want on their labymod cape.. Enough was said about that, you know what I mean xd
I agree that inappropriate capes should be under the same punishment as inappropriate names and skins. The only concern that I have is that if people switch the ownership of their capes to different accounts to get their friends banned. As long as you actually need to be logged onto both accounts for that transaction to take place as Zonafer said, then this should definitely be bannable. A few people mentioned that the punishment for this should be a sev2 gameplay offence or a 2 day ban, I have to disagree. With the inappropriate skin/name punishment, all you have to do is change your skin / name and you will be unbanned, no questions asked. (as long as it is your first time) Making it a 2 day ban will mean that players would log back onto mcc after 2 days with their name / skin unchanged and get banned again.
That was not the point of this post, as I said that a lot of older players do tend to have such capes, but I can see where you're coming from. The rule would apply equally to all players, just like all the others.
Hi! I personally agree with a permanent ban for inappropriate capes just like the other two counterparts to it. I'm not sure what the policies with Optifine are with capes and such, but Labymod has a policy against inappropriate capes. It's against their terms and conditions to have explicit imagery on capes and other customisable add-ons. 5.1 - "In certain cases it is possible for the user to personalize acquired services with their own content (eg own texture). The user assures that the content stored on the server does not violate applicable law. He undertakes not to use the services of LabyMod for the storage or distribution of obscene, pornographic, racist, threatening or defamatory material." [Source] Labymod has its own report function for this (/capereport <name>) inbuilt into the client. On our side of things, I believe we should modify the rules to make this punishable. My only concern, like the previous posts, is the transferring of capes to other users. Then again it comes to whether someone would actually go through the trouble to pay that much money for the sake of someone getting banned for 5 days at the most. Another think that could come up is us being able to browse the capes, with Optifine its easier (just need to namemc the person) but with Laby capes, its a tad bit more tedious. Nonetheless, its a good idea and I would like to see it implemented.
I think that in most cases, these capes would be reported by the community, and if sufficient evidence is included, it should be easy to figure out and punish.
I definitely agree with this. As many users use Optifine and can see these capes. Most users probably use Badlion Client and you’re still capable of seeing Optifine capes, not sure if you can on LabyMod but I’d assume so. I would also say custom 5Zig capes could fall under this too. Only nonpunishable capes I would say is Forge Custom Cape Mod.
Also, if a staff member is unsure of a players cape design / has doubts about a report they can NameMC the user to see the current cape design.
What I meant was in regards to unbanning them after they appeal. NameMC only displays Optifine capes so it doesnt really help with other types.
