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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by dark0, Mar 2, 2021.

  1. dark0

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    Expecting this post to get removed because the server can't take criticism

    Explain to me: If your server isn't going to follow Mojang's rules about not selling in-game advantages, why should i listen to yours?

    For example:

    In skywars you get explosive arrows that do extra damage and break blocks

    In kitpvp you get a kit that has the items that non ranks get weekly, with no cooldown (correct me if i'm wrong, however even if i am it's extra items regardless).

    In SG you get a wolf spawn egg.

    Theres also a perk that gives you 2.5x credits, with which you can buy perks and kits.

    Cheating is breaking the server rules, however having a pay to win server is against the law.
     
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  2. Lxvely

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    Hi there,

    This topic has been brought up and answered many times before so I suggest you look for those posts if you want to read a little more about it. On another note, name 1 prominent Minecraft server that does not "Break EULA" in the same way as MCC supposedly does by offering perks, ranks, etc.

    Have a lovely day :)
     
  3. KierenBoal

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    Hey dark0,

    You'll find compared to other servers, MCC is actually very tame in the P2W aspect.
    A non donor can definitely thrive and get far easily.

    Every server breaks the EULA, and as such, gets blacklisted by Mojang.
    For that reason, MCC already gets punished, MCC can not and will not be promoted by Mojang, nor will MCC ever appear on any discovery list of Mojangs - as does every other server.

    So yeah, if you think MCC is 'getting away' with whatever you're convinced it is; it is not.
    We could quite easily ramp up P2W by selling direct wealth to players, or selling unbans and unmutes as many other servers do. However, we will not be doing that.
     
  4. dark0

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    That is very true, i have seen many do this. However, servers like hypixel and mineplex do it the right way and sell cosmetics, not advantages. And the eula does not specifically say you can't sell ranks and the like. It just states that you cannot sell advantages for real life money.
     
  5. MAXILES

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    most big servers are even slightly p2w. but many small servers are not.
    many people drink drive and just cos they do doesnt mean its ok for you to do it too. just kinda common sense.
    if someone else does, it doesnt mean its ok for u to do it /:
     
  6. Nikki_

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    Howdy,
    The idea OP brings up has nothing to do with drink driving, and doesn't follow the idea of someone else doing it blah blah. The point is, if you are criticising MCC for violating the EULA, then you should also be criticising every other server as well. It has nothing to do with the fact that 'we are only doing it because everyone else is'.

    Also drink driving has no relevancy to the issue whats ever :/
    -Nikki
     
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  7. Rok

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    I don't think the analogy he made is about whether drunk-driving has relevancy to the EULA guidelines. I --don't know but-- presume that he made the comparison in response to the point that the other guy brought up being: 'other being servers break EULA guidelines, so if you're going to criticize MCC, you should criticize other servers.' I'm assuming he is not condoning other servers for doing it, like drunk-driving, despite other people doing it- and just because other servers break EULA guidelines doesn't mean MCC should, right? I mean the justification is that he can't criticize MCC for breaking EULA guidelines because other servers are? I mean, maybe he is you don't know, and just because they are doesn't mean MCC should be - in his perspective, possibly lol. I don't know.

    Regardless. I could not care less if MCC did, frankly I strongly disagree with a lot of the EULA guidelines, I remember when they were first proposed. To the person posting this, buddy, you can have that conviction but MCC isn't going to stop doing that.

    This post is a broken record.
     
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  8. MAXILES

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    its called an analogy. im saying just cos every other server does it, it doesnt make it alright for us to do it. we are not criticising other servers for doing it cos i dont main other servers. jeez
     
  9. guih

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    hypixel and mineplex both sell network boosters which double up the amount of coins/credits players are getting for a game
    the only difference between their systems and mcc's is that mcc offers personal unlimited boosters that come in with the rank purchases, whereas those servers offer hourly boosters so that more and more people will buy them in order to get more coins and they'll make a ton more. if you were to consider that mcc is actually p generous
     
  10. Alansar_trignot

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    This is actually the first time ever I’ve heard about a server allowing people to pay to get unbanned/unmuted, that’s ridiculous and I don’t think that’s right at all
     
  11. dark0

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    Those boosters give EVERYONE a boost therefore it is allowed. Also, that literally just pay to win. You're buying a boost for yourself to get more credits or whatever they're called

    Also, have you seen the prices of these ranks????? 110 dollars is a bit much if you ask me (hypixel's top rank is 40 dollars and mineplex's is 25 dollars excluding both monthly ranks).
     
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  12. dark0

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    Instead of saying you should be criticizing every other server maybe you should be a decent server and not do it?

    And you never answered the original question.
     
  13. Alansar_trignot

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    Yea, I understand about the ranks, but you don’t need to pay 110 bucks consecutively, you can start from coal rank and every now and then, upgrade your rank, of course, I would get a rank, but the reason I can’t is because my parents either ain’t got PayPal or would rather I don’t spend my money on the server, but still. And with the boosters, it effects everyone within a certain sub server, it doesn’t affect only the person who bought it, it’s not pay to win, it’s pay for a boost, plus, read the name for them, b-o-o-s-t-e-r, booster not win, booster, a boost, it helps, not let’s you win. What do you mean when you said “your buying a boost for yourself to get more credits, or whatever they’re called”?
    Oh also, when you buy a rank, it’s not for a month like with hypixel, it’s for life, you buy it once
     
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    Ranks are priced this way because you're not just paying for features on one server - you're paying for features on 6 subservers as well as minigames. That's about $15-16 per subserver. As well as that, there are frequent 40% off sales, bringing that cost down to just $9.40 per subserver. These prices are for the highest rank, if you don't want to pay that much you can always go for a cheaper rank.

    Hypixel can put their prices that low because all their ranks do is just give cosmetics and no advantages, whereas on MCC you get kits, commands, etc. Before Hypixel turned to cosmetic only ranks, their ranks were far more expensive.
     
  15. dark0

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    Hypixel's ranks are lifetime except for mvp++, which is $8/month.

    And that "boost" is still pay to win. You're getting a boost on credits which can be used to buy kits and perks (such as enderpearls which is a big advantage).
     
  16. Alansar_trignot

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    Well then according to you, every known server that has a single boost is a pay to win server
    But there’s a problem, boosters don’t boost mini games, they only boost a certain sub server, and you can’t buy kits in those subservers using in game money
     

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