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Anti Cheat On the Server

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by HarryIsADuck, Apr 20, 2020.

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Whats your opinion on the current Anti Cheat

  1. There isnt a Problem with the Anti cheat

    10.8%
  2. The Anti cheat is old and needs an update

    18.9%
  3. The Server Needs to step up and find a new anti cheat to make the server better

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  1. HarryIsADuck

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    This is getting beyond stupid now! Also all mini games now have hackers and the server doesn't seem to be doing anything about it. Im not sure if they just cant find one or they just don't want to invest money back into the server. There couldn't even be the argument of "we're finding one" as i've played on this server for about 5/6 years and there has been little to no change with anti cheat. Is there a plan to get an anti cheat if so can be be moved forward. I think a lot of people will agree with me when i say A GOOD ANTI CHEAT IS LONG LONG OVERDUE. A lot of people would say report them on the forums to help out but many people do not have the specs to be able to record and report people which takes me to my next point that they should 100% try to add a /report feature which could notify staff of suspicious/blatant hackers.


    Would love to see others opinions on this, hopefully it reaches the owners so they can implement a new anti cheat
     
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  2. DrBrando

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    Hey! I think we can all relate to the frustration you are feeling in this post, however, I bring good news. Word has it that minigames will be seeing a revamp in the upcoming months and with it we will likely be seeing the release of an anticheat on the minigame subservers. While we wait for the revamp to be made live, the best system is going to be to record the offending user, report them at https://mccentral.org/community/forms/report-players.2/respond with video evidence, and sit back and let staff unleash the ban hammer on them. Im sorry you guys are having such a rough time with hackers rn but fear not, improvements are on the way =D
     
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  3. Pxrge

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    I agree with most of what you said except for the /report feature. Although it sounds like a good idea, that feature can be easily abused and it would waste a lot of staff members' time as they would spectate legit players. Not saying it would be completely inefficient, but as said before, it can be easily abused.
     
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  4. DrBrando

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    Given my current understanding of the /chatreport system, there are chat reports coming in about every 15-30 seconds, requiring at least 2 helpers to basically be on chatreports at any given time. If we were to add /report on top of this I think that the system would quickly become overwhelmed and there wouldn't be enough moderators to spectate everyone who is accused. While /report works for smaller servers quite well, Mcc is just a little too big to use features like /report and /helpop.

    This is just my opinion though =)
     
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  5. s0cial_

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    Hey, gamer!

    I am happy to know that you care about the server players and the future of the server, I believe that this wave of hackers inside it may be a little unpleasant, especially in the most played minigames (SkyWars / Murder) Now moving on to what it matters, as for what you wrote about the staff and about the anti-cheat, remember that the staffs also have a personal life and they cannot stay just 24 hours online inside the server, and there is a team of reports, now as for to anti-cheat, in my opinion what you wrote about implementing an in-game / report command doesn’t make sense, what the server development team could do was create an anti-cheat that would block a hacker from making a bridge with sword or any other item, just a normal bridge like all of us players, block the attempt to fly and be automatically kicked. This is my opinion.
    Greetings,
    badSilva :blush:
     
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  6. Skwindle

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    Personally its really out of hand and I want to play SG in peace. At least a better way of reporting or getting someone perm banned would be really nice
     
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  7. Pxrge

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    I disagree with a lot of things in your opinion. First of all, Murder Mayhem isn't even close to being the most played game mode. SkyWars is right below SG in player population at the moment if you minus the 700 fakeplayers from SkyWars and the 100 fakeplayers from SG. And who in their right mind would spend their time hacking in murder mayhem? Going back to the relevant stuff about the /report command, HarryIsADuck does have a valid point about a /report command being added, but that would only be applicable if the server actually had a good and promising anti-cheat that wouldn't false ban legit players. Also, don't tell someone else that their opinion "doesn't make sense", it's rude and degrading. That's like me saying to you "In my opinion, what you wrote about the server development team implementing an anti-cheat only preventing fly hackers and scaffold bridgers from doing their hacks and getting automatically kicked(not even banned) is literally not at all different from our current anti-cheat which can do the same but the chances are very slim of it actually kicking the hackers. Overall, your opinion doesn't really make sense."

    Greetings,
    Pxrge:relaxed:
     
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  8. Departition_

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    it’s been talked about for like 3 years it’s not coming
     
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  9. Ahnxious

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    My intentions were not to hurt anyone's feelings/ put anyone's opions down.... :
    In my opinion I agree with all of you to a certain point. HarryIsADuck I understand that this whole hacking situation can be really upsetting but like what BadSilva said "remember that the staffs also have a personal life and they cannot stay just 24 hours online inside the server" (Badsilva). This whole hacking situation is like remembering to pick up your own trash at school. Yes the whole purpose of the Janitor's job is to clean all the schools mess. But it is also our responsibility to do our part and throw away our own trash. How this is relevant towards the hacking situation is that, yes there is Staff/Helpers that are supposed to be monitoring players and determining who is hacking or not. But as a member of this server we are shaping how this server will be in the future years. There is no community without the people. And if we see people hacking we should do our part and report the player WITH evidence. Yes it may take time but that would resolve the problem right? Now towards my opinion about /report command. I do agree with Pxrge when he/she says "Also, don't tell someone else that their opinion "doesn't make sense", it's rude and degrading" (Pxrge). The way you said it may have come out in a rude way, but I don't believe that was his/her intention. Personally I feel like /report command wouldn't be as helpful as it seems. You would need to have evidence. Which you could just report right here ... https://mccentral.org/community/forms/report-players.2/respond . We got to keep in mind the maturity of this generation. We all have seen that one guy who gets angry because he lost a game and claimed the other person was "hacking", when the truth is that he really sucks at the game. People who are immature will abuse that command which will cause staff members wasting time and not fixing the problem that we are having a discussion about right now. I do agree with Pxrge,Badsilva,and you HarryIsADuck when you all mention that "A GOOD ANTI CHEAT IS LONG LONG OVERDUE" (HarryIsADuck). But we got to understand that the staff team is trying as hard as they can. Personally I disagree with you HarryIsADuck when you say "i've played on this server for about 5/6 years and there has been little to no change with anti cheat" (HarryIsADuck). I have been playing minecraft as long as you are. And i am dedicated to this server, and this is the main server I go on. In the past it wasn't needed as bad as we need it is now, the reason the hacking problem is getting worse is DUE TO TECHNOLOGY ADVANCING. Overall let us remember the discussion and bring more light to this topic so something can be done. Im pretty sure if more and more players will complain about this problem, something will eventually be done. But also remember to be considerate and kind of others.
     
  10. HarryIsADuck

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    Hey, Thanks for writing on this post but i do have to mention a couple things that you noted. You said that you've played on the server for the same amount of time as me. If this is so you should know that even before the "technology advance" there were hackers and its not like the server did anything back then even if they did say they were plans for anti cheat which i remember them saying. For many years now the server has said that an anti cheat is on the way but how many times does one have to say it for it to actually come true. i also wanted to touch on another thing you said which was about people doing there part to report players on the forums. I don't think everyone can/wants to report X number of hackers on the forums everyday. I know a lot of people do already but clearly this is not working which is why an anti cheat is needed in the first place, it releases pressure off staff and players so we can enjoy the server in peace.

    This part is for everyone on this thread, Please don't start attacking people for what they have put. Yes this is a place for discussion but calling people names and such will result in your comment being removed as always I'd love to hear everyone's view on this subject and i hope you have a pleasant day

    Much Love,
    Harry
     
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  11. Ahnxious

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    Hello my intention was not to call anyone out, neither to attack anyone. This is a friendly discussion that I am having between all of you. I quoted peoples comments and used them to explain my opinion. And if I used your name, and you didn't like that I apologize. I do know there was hackers before technology advanced, but there was less at the time. Hackers was not that much of a threat at the time, so there was probably no reason to go through all that trouble. Id also like to mention that the reason us members need to play a part in this community. It is to get the message across as many times as we need to, so we can make a change. One person can make a difference. If one person can start a trend, i really do believe they can make a difference. I'm not necessarily saying you, but if someone was not willing to report hackers and etc... (as much as they can) then they are just complaining about something and that is not really going to fix the problem. BTW I like ducks :)) nice username.
     
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  12. Breazia

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    yes I wish there would be a better anitcheat but its also helping me get reports so I do and don't care.
     
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  13. Ahnxious

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    trying to apply for staff.... sameee
     
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  14. _Noxid

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    New anticheat is coming with the minigame revamp.
     
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  15. _Noxid

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    I got my 50 reports in under a week, and at 2 weeks I had about 70 since I started playing factions. Unfortunately, whilst playing factions I got banned for something I really didn't do, but I'm being punished for, so I would have to wait a good while until I could apply.
     
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  16. Ahnxious

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    Which is?
     
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  17. _Noxid

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    Illegal cannon. My friend made the cannon but I placed a few things, so I got banned.
     
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  18. xUnkn0wn

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    Hey there.

    I completely agree that the server needs a new anti cheat. I rarely see hackers get kicked from games via the anti cheat, only getting banned by staff. It will make minigames a lot more fun, with a lot less hackers. This is probably the biggest issue with the server at the moment, but could be quite an easy fix and will be a huge improvement.

    -Max
     
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  19. Ahnxious

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    yikes did he get banned too? If you knew what you were doing might have the slightest chance of getting banned, then to be honest its kinda on you as well as your friend.
     
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  20. _Noxid

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    I appealed but he didn't get banned.
     
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